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    Thank God we did not get Chandler.

    I know many people here feel like they got "kicked in the gut" as one poster put it, but there is a reason they do these physicals, and it served it's intended purpose. We averted a disaster. Be happy with the knowledge that we did not get some useless lump in exchange for two useful players. If anything, you people new to the NBA will have received a lesson in trades: It is not over until it is over, and there is no sense in getting excited until the player suits up and plays. Welcome to NBA trading.

    This is not a team killer, and I am sure both men knew they were trade considerations long in advance. When you are making millions of dollars in the NBA, as long as you still get a multimillion dollar paycheck in this economy, I am sure you will not get your feelings hurt too bad.

    Accepting the conditional offer was good for the league. Now everyone knows what Chandler is worth in a trade. Turning down the trade was great for the Thunder, and you will probably be cheering the move in about 1 month. This IS a good thing if you think about it.

    Tyson Chandler was not going to do us any good as "bench meat". Wilcox and especially Smith, give us good efforts and are usable bench players, and both are veterans who understand business decisions. Remember: Both have been traded before, and both still have trade value. Chandler has no trade value anymore. In this trade situation, New Orleans loses, we win.

    Maybe we trade for someone, maybe we go into the post season with who we have. Personally, I LIKE who we have. There will be plenty of wheeling and dealing after the season is over, and into next season. The Thunder will only get better from here.

    Crisis averted, time to thank God and move on.

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    Couldn't agree with you more Chief.

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    This could force Shinn into a real fire sale come the off season, if all that talk we heard about this deal being done strictly for financial reasons was fact.

    Hornets played great last night vrs the Magic and they better make the most of this season cause a blow up is probably on the horizon.

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    I think most people are taking it reasonably well, and undestand the business aspect of it. As far as "you people new to the NBA", who knows, but I'm sure they'll be ok after they get over the complete emotional destruction of it all and will have learned their lesson.

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    http://nba.fanhouse.com/2009/02/19/c...ality-for-n-o/


    Chandler's Return Brings an Even Worse Financial Reality for N.O.

    Posted Feb 19th 2009 6:00AM by Tom Ziller (author feed)

    As Brett Pollakoff told you early Thursday morning, the Thunder slapped a "Return to Sender" stamp on big prize Tyson Chandler.

    That leaves New Orleans in worse financial shape than before it made the cap-cutting trade. Dropping Chandler for expiring contracts began as an unsavory idea ... but it was a passable idea. Chris Paul didn't revolt or anything. But now the options are slimmer and far more likely to draw serious fire from within.

    The team needed to move a big contract. Peja Stojakovic makes too much money, Morris Peterson's contract is too long, and James Posey is seriously overpaid. Chandler was basically the only movable non-All Star. And now he is unmovable (unless some desperate team is willing to waive the physical, which seems wholly unlikely).

    I'm not in the business of reading George Shinn's mind, nor would I want to be. But based on what we've seen and heard over the past two weeks, in combination with the aborted Chandler trade, the Hornets have two options.

    * Trade Julian Wright, Rasual Butler, Hilton Armstrong and/or the team's 2009 draft pick for nothing to try desperately to inch under the tax line, replacing the attrition with minimum salary players.

    * Trade David West.

    The latter seems unthinkable; West is a two-time All-Star who makes less than $10 million, an absurd dollar-for-dollar value. He's good, and vital. Teams that want to win don't trade players like David West without getting something grand in return. By virtue of needing to cut costs, you probably can't afford to take something grand back.

    Chandler's exile drew some grousing from the prominent Hornets. Trading West for nothing might bring full-on mutiny. You can only pinch Chris Paul's skin so hard before he snaps back, you know?

    The team could also try to trade Chandler again this summer. But I wouldn't bet on success there. Tricky times.

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    Is there any way to verify that Shinn's financial situation is really dire ?

    Could this just be another Shinn " dog and pony " story to hide the fact that he's dumping Chandler cause Chandler is damaged goods ?

    Never forget, Shinn is a shuckster and a hyster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plainsman View Post
    Is there any way to verify that Shinn's financial situation is really dire ?

    Could this just be another Shinn " dog and pony " story to hide the fact that he's dumping Chandler cause Chandler is damaged goods ?

    Never forget, Shinn is a shuckster and a hyster.

    I don't know that the Hornets are currently in a dire posistion but IMHO small market teams cannot afford to pay the luxury tax and next year the Hornets are in big big trouble with the cap. Even if the luxury threshold is not lowered next year which has been rumored they are 5 million over the current one with only 10 players.

    http://hoopshype.com/salaries/new_orleans.htm

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    Great post Chief. Agree with you completely.

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    Why can not these physicals be done before the trade is done ? Is there some rule that kept Thunder doctors from examining Chandler during the negotiation process ?

    Seems to me, that would be much less messy than the current process of after the fact exams.

    Presti said in his PC announcing the trade Tuesday evening, that he was waiting for Thunder doctors " to get their hands on him " . The way he said that made me think it could be an issue but I attributed it to the current ankle injury. And now that we find out the Thunder doctor had examined Chandlers toe a couple years ago. Its not like this doctor only saw Tyson one time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plainsman View Post
    Why can not these physicals be done before the trade is done ? Is there some rule that kept Thunder doctors from examining Chandler during the negotiation process ?

    Seems to me, that would be much less messy than the current process of after the fact exams.
    So if 3 teams are trying to get a player, you think that instead of playing that the player should be going all over the country doing physicals for something that may or may not happen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capt Jack Sparrow View Post
    So if 3 teams are trying to get a player, you think that instead of playing that the player should be going all over the country doing physicals for something that may or may not happen?
    As opposed to what just occurred here ???????

    Good grief.

    Hey, they've got these new things called jet airplanes, amazing contraptions, people can travel all over the country in mere hours......... dam, who wudda thunk it ? huh ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capt Jack Sparrow View Post
    So if 3 teams are trying to get a player, you think that instead of playing that the player should be going all over the country doing physicals for something that may or may not happen?


    I would rather see them make it NBA policy not to announce a trade until the physical has been done and the trade is solid. At this point, I do not see what could be wrong with doing that...does anyone know why that would be a bad idea?

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    I agree, I can't think of 1 good reason why they don't do the physical before announcing a deal, I guess that just makes to much since for the guys running the NBA.

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    Mmmmmmm..... bench meat......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wooldoor Sockbat View Post
    Mmmmmmm..... bench meat......



    Is that anything near road kill ?

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